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by Norman P. Grubb

We’ve died with Christ in spirit, but not yet died with Christ in body. See, Christ has died in spirit and body and risen in spirit and body. We’ve only died in spirit and risen in spirit. And so the inner realm is reachable by sin but we do not live in it. We do not live in it! I can’t get it over enough because I know many of us play with this. I know many of us say, “Theoretically I’m dead to sin.” But we haven’t irretrievably, irrevocably, understood the position and taken it and had a public burial of some kind. We haven’t come clean out. I’ve come clean out. I’m finished with sin. It has no dominion over me. There’s no need for me to give it any hearing of any kind. I’m finished with the whole business. Sin, flesh, and world—Romans 8! What does Romans 8 say?—verse 9. “Ye are not in the flesh but in the spirit.” See? Romans 8:9, “Ye are not in the flesh.” Don’t say you are in the flesh then. But you see, in a sense, the paradox. For in another sense we are in the flesh because we live in it. But in our spirits we are not in the flesh. You get the same idea in Jesus’ prayer in John 17 where He says, “You are in the world, but not of it.” Now we’re not of the world but we’re in the world. And we’re not of the flesh but we’re in the flesh. But there’s a real difference there. We’re not in the flesh. We have no business to say we walk in the flesh. We don’t walk in the flesh. We walk in the Spirit. We’re cut clear. The flesh has been crucified with its affections and lusts. But the flesh is here and can call to us—it surely does, and so can the world. Now that’s the important point that must be reached.

Karuizawa Japan Conference of 1954
Topic: “The Liberated Self”